40%. that's the first time we've seen all of them above 40%. that's been the interest bump in all of the national polls and in what we've seen in our own state polls. and if you think about it, i've had a couple of democrats tell me, that's the clinton bump, if you will. clinton's speech was all about making the case that, hey, it may not feel good, but we're, quote, on the right track, on the right course. and that may be the bump that the president is experiencing right now. the president is, does it last? >> chuck, i noticed something in the polling, thinking about the conventions. in tampa where the republicans had their convention, president obama has a 12-point lead. >> i know. >> in the tampa area of 53 to 41. what do you make of that? >> it's interesting. i think a lot of us assumed there would be no bump out of the conventions because the assumptions was the republicans were going to put on a good convention and you'd have two equal conventions and they'd sort of cancel each other out. that isn't the case.